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Singer Lily Allen and podcast cohost can’t recall how many abortions they’ve had

Singer Lily Allen, a vocal supporter of Planned Parenthood, is proving that some people do like abortion and do use it as birth control.

The “Smile” singer and her podcast co-host Miquita Oliver recently discussed the number of abortions they have had, with Allen admitting she’s had so many, she’s lost count.

Key Takeaways:

  • Singer and actress Lily Allen admitted during her podcast that she doesn’t remember how many abortions she has had but estimates it to be “four or five.”
  • Her podcast co-host Miquita Oliver said she has also had “about five” abortions.
  • The women laughed about their multiple abortions and Allen said that simply not wanting a baby is a good enough reason to have an abortion.

What Happened:

On Monday’s episode of Allen’s Miss Me? podcast, she and co-host Oliver spoke candidly and casually about their abortion experiences. Allen admitted, “I have an IUD now, I think I’m on my third, maybe fourth, and I just remember, before that was a complete disaster area. I was just… Yeah, I’d get pregnant all the time.”

Oliver said she hadn’t realized that Allen had undergone abortions, which Allen then joked, making up a song to the tune of Frank Sinatra’s “My Way”: “Abortions, I’ve had a few, but then again, I can’t remember exactly how many.”

She then laughed, saying, “I can’t remember, I think maybe, like… I want to say four or five,” and Oliver said she, too, had “about five” abortions.

Then Oliver added, “I’m so happy I can say that, and you can say it, and no one came to shoot us down, no judgment.”

Allen continued, “I remember once getting pregnant and the man paying for my abortion and me thinking it was so romantic. I’ll tell you how romantic it was, I don’t think he texted me after!”

Oliver said that getting an IUD “really changed” her life because she “stopped getting abortions.”

“The pattern would be: Unfortunately, get pregnant, like, not want to be, have an abortion, then while I was sedated in said abortion, they’d give me a coil,” said Oliver. She noted that she “can’t quite remember” why, but she would have the coil taken out every time. It’s unclear if doctors gave her the IUD without her consent.

Any reason ‘is enough reason’

In the Thursday episode, the topic of abortion was also mentioned, with Oliver saying, “I have had a few abortions, and I think one of them was coming up to about three and a half months, and that was really terrifying, I had no idea.” She added, “I felt really embarrassed to even say that I had more than one abortion, why the f*** should I be ashamed? I have had a few.”

Allen replied, “It actually irritates me, and I’ve said it before on the record. I’ve seen memes going around sometimes, on Instagram from pro-abortion accounts or whatever, whenever this conversation comes up, and suddenly you start seeing people posting things about extraordinary reasons for having an abortion. Like: ‘My aunt had a kid that had this disability,’ or whatever, ‘if she went full term it was going to kill her, so we have to.’ It’s like, shut up! Just: ‘I don’t want a f***ing baby right now.’ Literally, ‘Don’t want a baby’ is enough reason.”

The conversation shifted to show that Allen and Oliver do not take sex, pregnancy, or abortion seriously — or perhaps have numbed themselves to any ill effects they may have suffered.

“One of the abortions I had, I hated the guy and had absolutely no interest in having his f***ing child,” said Oliver. “I was like: ‘Absolutely not,’ and as you know, throughout my 20s and 30s, having a baby wasn’t really very important to me, and I’d have hated if I didn’t have the option and the freedom to do what I needed to do for my own life.”

“Not wanting” a child does not justify killing that child, whether that child is in the womb or outside the womb. A person’s perceived ‘wantedness’ does not determine their value.

Reality Check:

Allen and Oliver’s cavalier attitudes toward abortion are evidence that there are people who use abortion as birth control, killing off their children with complete casualness rather than preventing pregnancy. They admit that once they had IUDs, they no longer ‘needed’ abortion.

Yet for years, they engaged in casual sex, finding it “romantic” when a man who impregnated them paid to kill the baby they created and then never showed his face again. Now they are laughing about it all, and in doing so, encouraging their listeners in the same behaviors.

The “freedom” to do what Oliver believes she “needed” to do to maintain her casual lifestyle and sexual encounters was to end the lives of five living human beings — her own children, whom she did not want.

Likewise, Allen believes that any reason is a good enough reason to have an abortion, while the person whom abortion most affects (the child, whose life is ended) is ignored.

The two women discussed having used other types of birth control besides IUDs, but they also discussed sexual encounters in which they didn’t bother to use contraception. Could this be because they knew they could simply use legalized abortion as their primary means of ‘birth control’?

According to the Endowment for Human Development, at just 21 days post-fertilization, a preborn child’s heart is already beating and pumping blood. By six and a half weeks, brainwave activity has begun and the baby’s hands are moving. By ten weeks, the baby’s nose and lips are formed and she can make complex facial expressions.

If a woman has an abortion at this stage, the abortionist ends the growing child’s life through the abortion pill (which deprives the baby of nutrients) or a D&C abortion (which suctions and scrapes the baby out of the uterus in pieces).

 

At three to four months, when one of Oliver’s abortions was carried out, the baby’s teeth are growing and she can react to light touch. She also has hormonal stress responses to invasive procedures — like abortion. This is the start of the second semester, and the most commonly used abortion procedure in the second semester is a D&E dismemberment abortion, during which the preborn child’s arms and legs are torn from her torso and her skull is crushed.

The Bottom Line:

While it is often claimed that no one takes abortion lightly, or that ‘no one is pro-abortion,’ Allen and Oliver’s podcast proves these claims wrong. These women likely had plenty of comprehensive sex education and knew all about birth control — and chose to use abortion as ‘birth control’ anyway.

Killing human beings by abortion shouldn’t make anyone “happy,” as Oliver presented it. And losing count of the number of children you’ve killed is a reflection of the brokenness and psychological numbing that abortion can bring.

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