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WATCH: Rape survivors and people conceived in rape meet 'Face to Face'

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WATCH: Rape survivors and people conceived in rape meet 'Face to Face'

The latest episode of Live Action's "Face to Face" series features men and women conceived in rape having a panel discussion with women who refused abortion after surviving rape.

Key Takeaways:

  • Rape is commonly seen as an acceptable exception to laws protecting preborn children from abortion, even among some who consider themselves pro-life.

  • Abortion does not "undo" the trauma of rape, and healing from violence does not require more violence.

  • All human beings have the right to life, regardless of the circumstances of their conception.

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The Details:

"God had entrusted this beautiful life to me"

In the video, rape survivor Kathleen Folan described her assault, which took place when she was 20 years old and in her junior year in college. After being locked out of her apartment, a male acquaintance of hers said she could stay at his apartment, offering her his bed and saying he would sleep on the couch. Instead, he raped her.

"I didn't tell a soul. I was so mortified," she said. "At the time I was going to daily Mass, I was close to Jesus. I just tried to wipe that memory from my mind. And a month later, I was nauseated all day, every day, for a few days. And my roommate said, 'maybe you're pregnant.' And I realized I probably was. The next morning, I took a test, and it was positive. And my well-planned life flashed before me. But in the same moment, I knew that God had entrusted this beautiful life to me, for whatever reason."

Folan chose an open adoption, remaining in touch with her son throughout his life as his adoptive family raised him. She and her son, as well as their extended families, all remain close to this day. "A lot of beauty came out of a lot of darkness," she said. "And I never imagined when I looked at that pregnancy test that it could have turned out so beautifully."

See more of Folan's story in the Live Action video below:

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"The most wonderful gift I ever had in my life"

Lianna Rebolledo was abducted and raped at the age of 12; after being beaten, she was left for dead. Her family didn't know how to handle the horror of the situation.

"What can you tell a kid who's only 12 years old that you're going to overcome, that you're still valuable, that they cannot take away your dignity?" she asked. "But instead of that, I only hear that my life was ruined, that my life was destroyed, that nobody was going to want me or care for me, especially because they cut my face. And when I was 12, I believed that they were right. So I wanted to take my life. And I tried to take my life."

In the hospital while recovering from the suicide attempt, Rebolledo learned she was pregnant; immediately, she was pushed to have an abortion.

"When they told me that I was pregnant, the only thing that crossed my mind was, I'm having a little person, I'm going to have a baby, and this baby's only mine," she said. "But the doctor, he said, 'you don't have to live with the consequences. Abortion is legal, and you can get an abortion. The product will be a reminder all your life of what you went through. So you don't have to live with this.'"

But Rebolledo pushed back, pointing out to the doctor that the abortion would not take away her nightmares or undo her rape. An ultrasound only strengthened her resolve.

"When I heard my baby's heartbeat, I just knew that my baby deserved a better life than the one that I have. And just knowing that this little person was inside of me gave me hope...."

Watch more of Rebolledo's story in the Live Action Exclusive interview below:

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"I'm not having any more violence done to me"

Mary Jane Lockemy said she was attacked by a serial rapist in 1983, shortly before he was arrested. She was his 14th victim.

Lockemy was married at the time, and her husband had undergone a vasectomy, so when she got pregnant, he immediately suggested an abortion, as the baby wasn't conceived in "love." But Lockemy refused.

"I thought, Oh, no, I'm not having any more violence done to me," she said. "That was plenty."

Eventually, through counsel from their priest, her husband came to agree with her, and they kept the baby. "Our lives have been so beautiful since then," she said. "... We got... this lovely, lovely child that's just been a blessing every day. And her children have been so precious to us."

"I pray one day I can thank her in Heaven"

Ashley Lawton was conceived in rape and had been placed for adoption by her biological mother. Yet she didn't know the details of her conception until she was older and in high school.

"Something came on the radio about abortion, and I said, 'I can't imagine being raped and then finding out you were pregnant.' I said, 'Mom, I don't know what I would do.' And she so casually looked at me and said, 'Well, honey, you were conceived in rape. Your birth mom was raped.'"

Lawton said time froze around her. "I heard this voice in the back of my head telling me, you're a product of evil. You were never meant to be," she recalled. "And I struggled with that for years, truly, thinking something must be wrong with me because of how I was conceived. How could I ever achieve anything in my life? How could anything ever come out of my life that was good because of how I started?"

As she found her faith, however, she said that voice began to disappear. She got married and was thrilled when she became pregnant. But a miscarriage brought all her fears roaring back.

"That voice came back — 'do you really think you'd be able to have a child? Do you really think I'd let you have a child?' And it was so crazy...." She did not know why she was hearing these things in her mind.

"And I just started praying, and I just called out to God like I'd never called out to him before. And I literally felt these warm arms wrap around me, and hold me, and tell me 'You're mine, and I've got you.' And so I rose up the next day, and I stood on my own two feet, and I looked at my husband, and I said, we're going to get through this."

"Why should I have to pay for the crime of other people?"

After Juda Myers' mother was raped by eight men, she became pregnant. Myers argued that the crime of rapists shouldn't mean a death sentence for children conceived in rape.

"If anybody knows how conception works, women don't get pregnant right at that moment," she said. "And so I tell people, I wasn't even at the scene of the crime when it occurred, so why should I have to pay for the crime of other people? I shouldn't be executed for being conceived that way."

Myers always knew she had been adopted, but her adoptive parents were told her mother died giving birth. "So as, I guess, not to let them know they had damaged merchandise, you know, because society has a really bad outlook on people conceived after rape," she said.

After she found information about her adoption, the social worker devalued Myers' very existence. But it didn't stop her from trying to find her mother.

"She leans over very rudely and says, 'your mother was raped,' like it was my fault," she said. My mother, when I found her, she was in a nursing home in Alabama in a wheelchair."

There, Myers' mother told her that after the rape, her parents wanted her to have an abortion, even though it was illegal at the time, and took her to a doctor who said he would, in her words, "take care of it." But her mother refused.

"My mom, in her little southern accent, she said, 'you will not take care of it because it is my baby," Myers recalled. "I started crying, and I put my head in her lap when she told me this. I was like, 'I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.' Like it was my fault. And she patted me, and she said, 'Honey, don't cry. I've forgiven those men, and look what God has done. He's brought you back to me. God is faithful.'"

"The sins of my father do not fall on me"

Mark Roepke's mother became pregnant when she was raped — shortly after finishing eighth grade. He always knew he had been adopted and that his biological mother was 14, but didn't know she had been raped.

"Never really thought about what that meant until I remember hearing somebody saying something, you know, dating a 15-year-old, 15 will get you 20," he said. "You know, you'll go to prison for 20 years for dating a 15-year-old, and it clicked in my head. I go, 'Well, if 15 will get you that, what will 14 get you?' Because I knew that's where I came from."

Later, a pro-abortion protester told him he was an 'abomination.'

"The circumstances of my conception do not determine my worth as a human being," he said in response. "I have a right to life as much as anyone else does. And the sins of my father do not fall on me."

Go Deeper:

Watch the entire video to see other testimonies and the rest of the emotionally riveting discussion.

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