In an interview with Live Action president Lila Rose, former abortionist Dr. Kathi Aultman revealed the details about why she was once pro-choice and chose to commit abortions, as well as the reasoning behind her pro-life conversion. Aultman also shared how she rationalized not only committing abortions but challenging herself to do late-term procedures.

“I was challenged by the procedure… the bigger, the better”

Aultman told Rose that there was an attending doctor whom she greatly admired and who had committed an abortion on her years earlier. Since he was committing late-term abortions, she decided she should learn how to do them as well.

Former Abortionist Becomes Pro-Life - A Conversation with Kathi Aultman | Exclusive

“I was challenged by the procedure and I really hate to say this but – the bigger, the better,” she explained. “I cringe now when I say that. I wanted to do the biggest ones that I could. It was a challenge and my whole focus was being good at what I did and stretching the limits.”

Aultman further explained that going through the long process of medical school and residency can cause doctors to “compartmentalize things” because they are having to learn so much information so quickly that they just accept it all and “take it all in without question.” She quite simply bought — without question — the lie that abortion is just a part of women’s health care.

“I think part of the problem was that I didn’t see a fetus any different than a chick embryo… the chick embryos that we dissected in college,” she told Rose. “And I didn’t see them as human beings. As a matter of fact, and again, I hate to admit this, when I would look at the parts that I had taken out, I was fascinated with them. I thought, ‘These are so cute and they’re great. They’ve got little fingers and toes.’ I actually would do extra sections through the different organs when we’d send them to pathology so that I could look at those pathology slides later because fetal tissue is different – a little bit different – than mature tissue. The cells are a little bit different and so I just wanted to find everything out about them I could but I did not seem them as human beings. I just saw them as embryos and fetuses, and not as people.”

“I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact”

Aultman’s words echo those we heard repeatedly in the Center for Medical Progress’s undercover videos exposing the illegal sales of fetal tissue and body parts. One after the other, top Planned Parenthood employees spoke about preborn human beings as if they were nothing more than very lucrative science experiments.

In the first video, Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Senior Director of Medical Services, Dr. Deborah Nucatola told undercover investigators that they have gotten very good at not destroying certain body parts during abortions so that they can sell those in-demand parts.

Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

READ: The three patients that made this doctor stop doing abortions for good

“I’d say a lot of people want liver,” she explained. “And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps. The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium – the head – is basically the biggest part. We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part. I’m gonna basically crush below. I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”

A challenge: get body parts out intact, including the head, even if that means illegally altering the abortion procedure, turning the child to the breech position with the hope that the mother will be dilated enough to remove the head (calvarium) without crushing it. It’s important to note that these abortionists aren’t using ultrasound guidance to commit abortions even though it could help them to ensure they don’t injure the woman, but they will use ultrasound to ensure that they don’t crush the money-making parts of the baby.

“They do it in a way that they get the best specimens, so I know it can happen”

The fifth CMP undercover video showed the Director of Research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, Melissa Farrell, bragging about their skills in securing “the best specimens.”

Intact Fetuses "Just a Matter of Line Items" for Planned Parenthood TX Mega-Center

“Where we probably have an edge over other organizations, our organization has been doing research for many years,” she said. “We bake that into our contract, and our protocol, that we follow this, so we deviate from our standard in order to do that.”

Basically, Farrell admits on video that at Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, abortionists are willing to try to alter the procedures for a higher likelihood of obtaining intact babies, deviating from the standard of care for women in order to financially benefit themselves.

“Some of our doctors in the past have projects and they’re collecting the specimens, so they do it in a way that they get the best specimens, so I know it can happen,” she explained. “[…] If we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, we can make it part of the budget that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this. It’s all just a matter of line items.”

“And she just taps the heart, and it starts beating”

In the seventh video from CMP, former StemExpress employee Holly O’Donnell recounts her experiences after being hired as a “procurement technician.” One baby in particular affected O’Donnell — a nearly intact late-term abortion victim.

Human Capital - Episode 3: Planned Parenthood's Custom Abortions for Superior Product

“‘Want to see something kind of cool?'” she said her supervisor asked her that day. “And she just taps the heart, and it starts beating. And I’m sitting here and I’m looking at this fetus, and its heart is beating, and I don’t know what to think…. I don’t know if that constitutes it’s technically dead or it’s alive.”

Human beings, strategically killed for their more profitable body parts — this is the abortion industry. As Aultman explained, to be in the abortion industry a person has to deny the humanity of children in the womb. Abortionists have to see preborn human beings as nothing more than a “challenge,” “a matter of line items,” “fascinating,” and “cool” in order to be good at what they do: killing.

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In an interview with Live Action president Lila Rose, former abortionist Dr. Kathi Aultman revealed the details about why she was once pro-choice and chose to commit abortions, as well as the reasoning behind her pro-life conversion. Aultman also shared how she rationalized not only committing abortions but challenging herself to do late-term procedures.

“I was challenged by the procedure… the bigger, the better”

Aultman told Rose that there was an attending doctor whom she greatly admired and who had committed an abortion on her years earlier. Since he was committing late-term abortions, she decided she should learn how to do them as well.

Former Abortionist Becomes Pro-Life - A Conversation with Kathi Aultman | Exclusive

“I was challenged by the procedure and I really hate to say this but – the bigger, the better,” she explained. “I cringe now when I say that. I wanted to do the biggest ones that I could. It was a challenge and my whole focus was being good at what I did and stretching the limits.”

Aultman further explained that going through the long process of medical school and residency can cause doctors to “compartmentalize things” because they are having to learn so much information so quickly that they just accept it all and “take it all in without question.” She quite simply bought — without question — the lie that abortion is just a part of women’s health care.

“I think part of the problem was that I didn’t see a fetus any different than a chick embryo… the chick embryos that we dissected in college,” she told Rose. “And I didn’t see them as human beings. As a matter of fact, and again, I hate to admit this, when I would look at the parts that I had taken out, I was fascinated with them. I thought, ‘These are so cute and they’re great. They’ve got little fingers and toes.’ I actually would do extra sections through the different organs when we’d send them to pathology so that I could look at those pathology slides later because fetal tissue is different – a little bit different – than mature tissue. The cells are a little bit different and so I just wanted to find everything out about them I could but I did not seem them as human beings. I just saw them as embryos and fetuses, and not as people.”

“I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact”

Aultman’s words echo those we heard repeatedly in the Center for Medical Progress’s undercover videos exposing the illegal sales of fetal tissue and body parts. One after the other, top Planned Parenthood employees spoke about preborn human beings as if they were nothing more than very lucrative science experiments.

In the first video, Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Senior Director of Medical Services, Dr. Deborah Nucatola told undercover investigators that they have gotten very good at not destroying certain body parts during abortions so that they can sell those in-demand parts.

Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

READ: The three patients that made this doctor stop doing abortions for good

“I’d say a lot of people want liver,” she explained. “And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps. The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium – the head – is basically the biggest part. We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part. I’m gonna basically crush below. I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”

A challenge: get body parts out intact, including the head, even if that means illegally altering the abortion procedure, turning the child to the breech position with the hope that the mother will be dilated enough to remove the head (calvarium) without crushing it. It’s important to note that these abortionists aren’t using ultrasound guidance to commit abortions even though it could help them to ensure they don’t injure the woman, but they will use ultrasound to ensure that they don’t crush the money-making parts of the baby.

“They do it in a way that they get the best specimens, so I know it can happen”

The fifth CMP undercover video showed the Director of Research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, Melissa Farrell, bragging about their skills in securing “the best specimens.”

Intact Fetuses "Just a Matter of Line Items" for Planned Parenthood TX Mega-Center

“Where we probably have an edge over other organizations, our organization has been doing research for many years,” she said. “We bake that into our contract, and our protocol, that we follow this, so we deviate from our standard in order to do that.”

Basically, Farrell admits on video that at Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, abortionists are willing to try to alter the procedures for a higher likelihood of obtaining intact babies, deviating from the standard of care for women in order to financially benefit themselves.

“Some of our doctors in the past have projects and they’re collecting the specimens, so they do it in a way that they get the best specimens, so I know it can happen,” she explained. “[…] If we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, we can make it part of the budget that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this. It’s all just a matter of line items.”

“And she just taps the heart, and it starts beating”

In the seventh video from CMP, former StemExpress employee Holly O’Donnell recounts her experiences after being hired as a “procurement technician.” One baby in particular affected O’Donnell — a nearly intact late-term abortion victim.

Human Capital - Episode 3: Planned Parenthood's Custom Abortions for Superior Product

“‘Want to see something kind of cool?'” she said her supervisor asked her that day. “And she just taps the heart, and it starts beating. And I’m sitting here and I’m looking at this fetus, and its heart is beating, and I don’t know what to think…. I don’t know if that constitutes it’s technically dead or it’s alive.”

Human beings, strategically killed for their more profitable body parts — this is the abortion industry. As Aultman explained, to be in the abortion industry a person has to deny the humanity of children in the womb. Abortionists have to see preborn human beings as nothing more than a “challenge,” “a matter of line items,” “fascinating,” and “cool” in order to be good at what they do: killing.

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